In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this episode of the podcast, Chris talks with Brian Vo (Connect Humanity) and Clara Miller (Federal Reserve Bank of New York) about unlocking mission-driven capital to bring broadband to historically excluded communities.

They explore how broadband networks, like other public utilities, can be funded through creative partnerships and financial tools that align with long-term community goals.

From the early lessons of the CDFI movement to success stories like Macon County, Alabama, this conversation highlights how inclusive, community-centered financing can build sustainable Internet infrastructure for the future.

This show is 30 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined by Bob Frankston, a pioneer in home networking and co-creator of VisiCalc, to explore the evolution of Internet infrastructure.

Frankston challenges the conventional understanding of networking, arguing that the Internet should be treated as a public utility rather than a commodity. He reflects on the origins of home networking, the rise of broadband, and why the current telecommunications model is fundamentally broken.

Frankston advocates for a future where connectivity is treated like roads and sidewalks—open, abundant, and community-owned.

Tune in for a deep dive into how shifting the business model of broadband could unlock new opportunities for innovation and resilience.  

This show is 47 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this episode of the podcast, Chris talks with Michael Keough, Chief Information Officer for Region 16 Education Service Center in the Texas Panhandle. Michael shares how Region 16 is transitioning from being an Internet provider to building a more resilient, high-speed network for 60 school districts across 26,000 square miles.

He explains the shift to a 10 Gig ring network to prevent outages, the importance of open access fiber to drive competition and lower costs, and how new edge data centers will enhance reliability and support future technologies like AI and quantum networking.

Michael also discusses the economic and educational benefits of better infrastructure, from strengthening school security to attracting new businesses.

Tune in to learn how strategic investments in broadband can empower schools and communities alike.

This show is 25 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this special episode of the podcast, Chris is joined by Gigi Sohn, Executive Director of the American Association for Public Broadband (AAPB). Originally aired last summer, they discuss the crucial role of state and local governments in broadband policy, efforts to grow community broadband networks across the U.S., and the ongoing challenges these networks face from incumbents and dark money groups.

Gigi also shares insights into her work with Benton, where she helps build coalitions in Missouri, Arizona, and Pennsylvania to ensure effective use of broadband funding. Additionally, the conversation highlights AAPB’s mission to double the number of municipal broadband networks in five years and the importance of defending these networks from attacks like those in Bountiful, Utah.

This show is 47 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined by colleagues Sean Gonsalves, Ry Marcattilio, and Jessica Auer to discuss several key topics in the world of broadband. The conversation begins with Jessica’s firsthand account of the devastating impact of Hurricane Helene in Asheville, North Carolina, highlighting the region’s communication challenges during and after the storm. The team delves into the critical importance of resilient telecommunications infrastructure in the face of natural disasters.

Later in the episode, Christopher, Sean, and Ry discuss the political controversy surrounding the FCC’s decision to deny Starlink's bid for Federal Rural Digital Opportunity Fund (RDOF) support, analyzing whether the decision was influenced by political bias. They explore how this case fits into the broader debate about satellite Internet's role in rural broadband access.

Finally, the team shares updates on key broadband initiatives, including a project in South Central Los Angeles and Vermont’s workforce development programs aimed at training the next generation of fiber technicians. This episode provides listeners with a broad overview of community broadband efforts across the United States, offering insights into the challenges and successes of bringing high-speed Internet to underserved areas.

This show is 35 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this episode of the podcast, Chris sits down once again with Chad Crager, Executive Director of Fort Collins Connexion, to discuss the city's progress in developing a sustainable municipal broadband network. Chad shares exciting updates, including reaching 21,000 subscribers and serving 80,000 premises, while highlighting the city's innovative approach to broadband, such as leveraging underground power infrastructure and implementing dig-once policies.

Chad also emphasizes Fort Collins' commitment to digital equity, explaining efforts to serve mobile home parks, the challenges of wiring such communities, and the introduction of Spanish-speaking staff to reach underserved populations. The discussion touches on the city's long-term sustainability plans, business model, and collaboration with local government, ensuring that Fort Collins Connexion remains financially resilient while fostering digital inclusion for all residents.

Tune in for an insightful look at how Fort Collins is balancing competition with incumbents, expanding broadband access, and setting an example for other cities looking to invest in community broadband.

This show is 30 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this episode of the podcast, Chris sits down with Christy Batts, Chief Broadband Officer at CDE Lightband, and Amanda Cherry, Customer Experience Supervisor, to explore the exciting developments in Clarksville's municipal broadband network. They discuss the town's transition from Active Ethernet to XGS-PON, a significant upgrade that promises multi-gigabit symmetrical speeds and increased efficiency. 

Christy and Amanda share insights into the challenges of upgrading 30,000 customers while maintaining high service standards and the ongoing efforts to future-proof Clarksville's network. They also delve into the unique aspects of operating in a military town, the importance of underground infrastructure in new developments, and the innovative use of AI for customer service training. 

Tune in to learn how Clarksville is setting a new standard for municipal broadband and ensuring a robust, reliable service for years to come.

This show is 32 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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In this episode of the podcast, Chris speaks again with Sean Gonsalves on recent developments in broadband infrastructure, focusing on efforts in California and Massachusetts to address digital equity and expand access to high-speed internet.

Sean and Chris discuss the California Public Utilities Commission's recent awards from the Federal Fund Account aimed at building last-mile fiber networks in cities like Oakland, San Francisco, and Fremont. These awards are significant for underserved communities and highlight the importance of public ownership in major cities. Sean provides insights into San Francisco's Fiber to Housing program, which aims to connect 30,000 affordable housing units to high-speed internet by leveraging the city's municipal fiber network.

The conversation also covers Massachusetts' broadband funding, including unexpected outcomes like substantial funding for Verizon and its implications for municipal broadband projects. They discuss the challenges cities face with the BEAD program and emphasize the need for creative public-private partnerships to solve connectivity issues.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

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